2014: Beaten by Real, 2015: Beaten by Barcelona, 2016: Beaten by Atletico. Pep failing to win or even reach the final with THAT team? Oh dear have mercy on City for next season...
X.Alonso should have taken the penalty instead of Müller. Coman should have started instead of Costa as well. Still can't believe Bayern did not win this. In terms of enjoyable football to watch, München were far better than Athletico =/
@yoyo his tatctics were really good.but he lacked a little bit of execution from the players.maybe if his team had messi/ronaldo they could alrdy had won like multiple champions league
Bayern played with their max potential in this situation. Their forwards were contricted by a top defensemans. The number of blocks, clearances and tactical defending was a treat to watch.
so guardiola took over a treble winning team and broke that dominating team apart, great thing cause they could of won everything again, at list defended their titles better. carlo will finally win a league, but no CL glory, this team peaked and now they are on the decline, ribery and robben are always hurt, CB are weak and also always hurt. you heard it here first.
If any neutral watching that game thought Bayern were anything but hard-done-by then they need to start watching a different sport. This should've been 6-1 Munich. Atletico played worse than when my team (Arsenal) visited the Allianz (but with some added unpunished fouling of course). I like Atletico and their tough style in a league full of pussies but they overstep the mark on many an occasion and it seems they get away with it. Actually, only English and German teams ever get punished and only Italians when they play a Spanish team. Ultimately, Bayern should've gone through. They battered Atletico here and the archaic away goals rule has cost them. I honestly don't see how it can't be changed so that away goals only count after extra time. As it is, it rewards crap football playing in the 2nd leg of ties.
@SteveHyland football isn't a video game. People fail to understand this. Putting your chances away is part of football in real life. The only way to get lucky or unlucky in real football is down to the officials or deflections
@SteveHyland ur team arsenal steve dont pretend to be a gunners fan coz ur not. how can u be a gunners fan if u like both tottenham and chelsea as well. God stop wid the cospiracy theory. IM bigger bayern fan than and we have lost overall so what. Its a football game not effing war.
@John_Wick- What? Pep's team battered Atletico. The tactics were fine. Given Atletico's reputation as a tough defensive team, they gave up 10 more shots than when Arsenal played there (with Gabriel in defence I may point out). A missed penalty, dodgy refereeing, a keeper in good form and an outdated away goals rule are what cost Bayern. This wasn't resolute defending, an impenetrable wall which Bayern failed to break down. I'll repeat what I said after the 1st leg, had a premier league team put in a performance like this and got the same result, the Liga fans- yourself included, would've mentioned how poor the league is, how we can't compete with the best on a footballing level, how we have to resort to anti-football tactics to win etc, but this season's possible Liga champs do it and it's genius? They say you earn your own luck in football but over the last few years the Liga teams have had so much game-changing luck, it's farcical and it's always in important games. Coincidence?
@SteveHyland we liga fans like atletico because they are competing with elite clubs without having the same financial resources. Money is a big factor in football. It allows you to get the best players, best coaches etc. Atm are ranked 15th in the world in terms of financial power. Google deloitte money league. If the likes of Barcelona, RM started to play this style of football it would be unacceptable, simply because of we expect rich clubs to play attacking football, because they are rich and can afford the players. If the likes of man utd or man city played like this, it would be unacceptable, because they have the money to play attacking football. Honestly I don't think any prem team can play like this anyway. Barca and RM definitely can't defend like this. It isn't easy, it just that we have different expectations for different clubs.
Bayern fans...thought you said you'd win UEFA for us (barca fans)?????
Anyway,,Im an African, from a long lineage of witches...and what I forsaw is that Atleti wont win it if Real go through...lets see....
@juve10 lol you might be right !! for me i prefere defenders with skills and whom can penetrate towards the middle of the opponents and create space for attackers like khalidou Matts Hummels Morgan varane Ramos !! Godin is like Pepe Miranda Kompany Subobic they are all pretty amazing for interception !!
Atletico was far from their best today but they managed to go to the finals. Gimenez had a very poor game and he was lucky that Lewandowski couldn't made the most of him mistakes. Godin was clearly not 100% fit. It was a very good decision from Simeone to leave Carrasco out of the starting line up. He changed the game in the second half.
Is there a way to check how many crosses Bayeen had because I was dissapointed by them,for all of their possession all they did was crosses,it was like watching David moves utd side
@bungalow26 Simeone said after the game that the first half was the best he has ever seen from a team against him since he is coaching teams. He is almost in Love with Bayern. So it wasn't that bad apparently
@bungalow26 Agreed. Although it was obvious that that's the most effective way for them to create something. Expected Atletico to defend those balls better though.
The poorest Atletico that I have seen in a long time. The first game they were good but tonight it was a disgrace what they showed on the pitch. Awful performance...
@neumi17 Agreed. But enough to take out Bayern.
They were really bad in the first half where they offered nothing offensively.
Have expected them to defend and clear better/win more duels in their 16m.
Also, they have showed better pressing in some past games.
The referee did a decent job. Pretty much as good as it gets. He made a mistake with the Torres penalty but otherwise top notch. Most people who are always quick to take the piss at referees would loose their heads completely in a game like this to the point that they wouldn't know their names.
congratulation to ref. and UFEA must consider the ugly behavior of atletico s coaching staff .bayern were very very unfortunate not to win this match but this is football and thats why its so exciting.
Very good performance from Bayern, they're only going out because of an out-dated away-goals rule. Now Atletico should win the CL, I can't see either Real Madrid or Man City being anywhere near Bayern's level.
@What4 Outdated is the whole refereeing. While the other sports took big step ahead, football remains conservative.
They brought 2 extra officials, gave referees the shaving cream, calculate the distance ran by the players and show heatmaps, etc. But every tournament, every single damn year brings controversy. And what do we have to demand from 2 corrupted managers as blatter and platini? Replays would have changed the football history have to say, but the biggest thing they were able to use is the goal line technology after years(!) of debates!
yeeeesssss , thank you simeome , thank you oblak , thank you griezmann , thank you lovely atletico , you made my night ... I repeat what i said 2 weeks ago: bayern was the easiest draw .... and I really hope I watch the game atletico vs city...
@alexandrion91 Agressive & physical does not equate to dirty and unfair. People need to grow a pair. But yea, Simone needs to calm it down. I cant believe he grabbed the Sub dude
@fervour21 The 'haha' was there to suggest I'm taking it with a laugh and not mocking.
It was interesting for me to compare how Guardiola's Bayern played in his first season which was pure Barcelona tiki-taka copy attept and this now.
@Ivannnnn idk mate, my opinion is bayern showed champion-level football tonight and were a bit unlucky, gratz to ATM anyway, nothing matters after the whistle.
Guardiola is most overrated coach in football by a miles ( I bet today both to score, Lewandowski to score, over 2,5 goals and over 10.5 corners - so nothing out of fury here). He has always took charge of already great teams and destroyed them in 3 years max. Now he takes over City who are solid, but by no means great team. Hope he gets them relegated and then be fired to learn how o build any team from scratch not taking over already great or very solid ones :)
@koziol.mutant I'd say he's good but he hasn't proved himself yet. I am tired of these coaches who only manage top teams with top players TBH. If you're the real deal take on a challenge a build something that is not already great. LIke Simeone did with Atletico.
Kudos for Klopp for taking a Liverpool job with lots to do even though he could have gone almost anywhere.
And Benitez who after Napoli and Real takes over Newcastle who's fighting against relegation.
@Ivannnnn he is unproven, that we agree on :) he was smart enough to take already great teams , made gradually such ones by other coaches and never really even emulated their achievements. Good points with Klopp and Benitez, would add even Spaletti, Pellegrini to that.
@koziol.mutant u r right, he destroyed dozens of teams and achieved nothing in his football career. Strange Bayern wasn`t relegated. The weirdest thing is Guardiolas Bayern reached 3semifinals of CL. This time they were torn apart by Atletico, it should have been 2-7 today, but for the Neuer and the referee.
@koziol.mutant I wouldn`t call a team "destroyed", when it wins 3 domestic championships in a row and reaches 3 semifinals of CL in 3 years. I do not think every manager achieved something like that in the last 30years of Bayern history. I do agree though that he was expected to take at least 1 CL and he failed. But what you wrote in your top comment is a total bs, sorry m8
@tar88s Offside goal and penalty call outside of the box. Bayern 51 shots and Atletico 18 shots over both legs. And people will still say it's deserved and the best team won.
@felipe9525 Griezmann wasn't offside. The only part of his body that was offside was his arm and as far as I'm concerned, you can't score with your arm and therefore he was onside.
Atletico is so freaking weak, it's a disgrace for football. Extremely pathetic performance by Madrid. Hopefully they get punished for that awfull play.
@ksaviauk There is a huge difference with Heynckes' Bayern and Guardiola's Bayern. Heynckes' Bayern was really great to watch, high pressing, great direct attacking style...this Guardiola's Bayern is unwatchable...endless shuffling of the ball from one side to the other...hilarious. It can pass in Barcelona since they nurture that style of play for over a decade now and they have the players for it...Bayern not so much.
Basically, no big doubt about Bayern win here, but.. those 2-1 3-2 will not be enough, Munich have strong attack, but defenders could make some errors and there is Torres just to use it anytime.
like someone once said: Guardiola is at risk of achieving the wrong treble: Losing the semi finals 3 times to 3 different Spanish teams. He better get his tactics right and motivate his players...
Whoever made this prediction really doesn't believe in Bayern and Guardiola. I know they looked helpless in front of goal at Calderon, but they still have some world class players and individual skill might as well be decisive in this game. I expect intense game and goalless draw just sounds silly.
if torres score, he will be sent off! :)
we can see red card/cards because cüneyt çakır is referee. also we can see surprise penalty decisions. for pep; eliminating atletico is more important than going to the finals. so ı think he will take some risks if there is no goal in first half. if there is no goal in first half, we can see 1-0 and extra time. if there will be a goal early, we will see more dangeorus attacks and goals.
I would like to see a 5-1 just because people now think Atletico is this and that. Bayern is a fine team away from home and might loose and draw but take a look at their results at home...It's a different story.
I wouldn't like to see Alonso and Bernat to start, neither have been impressive lately. Vidal is better at defending and Alaba is much better crosser which I think is important at this match. We know how Atleti will play and Pep should really try something different, I'm just not sure if he has anything else to offer. Atlentico will focus on defending but it would be important for them to score since that would mean they're basically through. If they fail to score though, Bayern have excellent chance to go to final. So pretty tight margins, both have a chance but Atletico have advantage. For now it seems 1-1 or 2-1 for me.
@Castle Yeah man, don't even mention Bernat, he was utterly hopeless. Muller is exactly the kind of player Bayern need in such games, someone with cojones. Exactly, we all know how Atleti will play, they're just so good at it that knowing doesn't give you any advantage. I usually defend his decisions, but Pep needs to cut his short-passes tactical bullshit tonight and go all in. Last chance to do that.
@Castle You should also add that while Atletico focus on defending they are usually are very agressive during the first 30minutes and it can be dangerous for Bayern if they play like they always do.
It's actually quite possible that Atletico will open the scoreline and only then Bayern will start to dominate which might be already too late. Although I support FCB 2-1 seems the most likely result.
@felipe9525 Good point, although if post is too long people don't bother to read it :P But check my previous post where I mentioned about Atlentico's counter attacking. I believe Simeone will gladly give possession to Bayern from very first minutes but could indeed press hard and get some good chances. At some point they must drop deeper but even then it will be hard for Bayern to actually dominate because Atlentico's lines are so tight. But with a little luck and creativity it's not impossible to score against them.
@John_Wick so that's the best you can come up with. Dude, you need to up your game. Now I could have easily made a your mamma joke such as "and your mother isn't a sex bomb either, but still she gets bent over and... guess what?", but I'll spare you the embarassment. After the first leg, I admit, Bayern doesn't look likely to progress, but there are still ninety minutes to go. It's not unheard-of for Bayern to score a couple at the Allianz. If not, good luck, Atleti, for the final. As long as it's not Real Madrid, I don't care.
Suarez couldn't do anything when they barca played Atleti until Torres got sent off. Lewa is in 2nd tier and i doubt he will be visible until the ref makes some horrible decisions and sends someone off to kill the game.
Simeone has based his game on very tight and well organized defending, but that's not all what their game is up to. Most of their clearances are attempts to start counter attacks, they clear the ball exactly where they are told to and strikers know where to run after winning possession. Other thing is a huge amount of work they do during matches and in training. Their intensity is so hard, their probably most running team in the world, whereas most of other teams avoid hard training as if it's something to avoid to because it leads to injuries. Maybe it's due to Atlentico's fitness coach Oscar Ortega, without his methods they wouldn't be able to play and train as they do.
@John_Wick Thanks. When you think about it, how many teams actually practice clearances? Maybe Leicester. The amount of training that directly benefits their game and transforms into something on the pitch must be the very biggest with Atlentico. Very precise training! And at the same time their players also continue developing individually.
Atletico is very lucky that Barcelona as well as Bayern are totally out of form and lack creativity at the moment. Maybe Bayern will score tomorrow but I don't think they will shoot more than 1 goal and I also think they will allow one too. So 1-1 or 2-1 at the most will be the score and Atletico will progress to the final...
@neumi17 i haven't seen a team that looked like 'in form' playing against Atletico. Barca is scoring 6-8 goals again. It's just Atletico is _this_ good.
@mysterious Atletico's record against Barca is very bad in recent seasons, latest win was their first for a long time. Nothing away from Atlentico, but Barca certainly weren't in form. But winning CL is actually very much about being in for at the right time.
Atletico look like the best team left. Bayern haven't lived up to expectations so far, and neither has Real Madrid, they look about as good as Man City.
If Carrasco plays, they will be very dangerous in counter attacks. With the addition of Godin, their defense will be more organized as well. If Bayern wants to go to the final, they must move the ball very quickly otherwise there will be no point in controlling the game with unnecassary passes.
Atletico shows determination, unity, sacrifice, team spirit and a lot of other positive aspects in their game. They deserve a lot of praise for the football they play. Every team is different and their style of play must be respected as well. Football is not all about attacking.
ATM will go through. Bayern have to score 3 goals, 2 won't be enough because just 1 goal from Atletico will win the tie. #ChampionsLiga. Pep will have an easier time next season, playing in the Europa and the mule league.
@Beastador thats the truest statement, i bet leicester wont even qualify for europa when they play in CL group stages. There are no mules in CL like the mules in PL. Pep will be happy to remain contained in his comfort box and win the PL or maybe even lose that. Spurs also shall crash out. Arsenal are perennial round of 16 prey.
@glenbayern What else can Bayern do anyway? Their offense has been totally harmless lately and the only plan for the offense is to send Costa, Coman and Ribery into 1-1 duells to than put about a 100 crosses in front of the goal in the hope to find the head of Müller or Lewandowski. So yes, of course they will attack with a lot of flanks because they don't know anything else to do anymore. Combination play does not exist...
I would expect Simeone to park the bus and take the ball to the corners of the field as long as they can. I wouldn't be surprised if ATM players try to waste time early in the first half! This is ATM style and some may like it!
The game will be intense and tough for both teams. I think Bayern to the final vs RM.
Me traveling back in time to warn you about simeone
Atletico is stellar for the budget they have, Simeone is the next big thing.
lol good work atletico :) bayern in ruins
2014: Beaten by Real, 2015: Beaten by Barcelona, 2016: Beaten by Atletico. Pep failing to win or even reach the final with THAT team? Oh dear have mercy on City for next season...
@Kendev he will spend 25o millions atleast
X.Alonso should have taken the penalty instead of Müller. Coman should have started instead of Costa as well. Still can't believe Bayern did not win this. In terms of enjoyable football to watch, München were far better than Athletico =/
you know what pep miss ; Lionel Messi in Bayern Munich
@yoyo absolutely true!
@yoyo his tatctics were really good.but he lacked a little bit of execution from the players.maybe if his team had messi/ronaldo they could alrdy had won like multiple champions league
See you at Milan Atletico! Lets repeat the 2013/2014 final and Real Madrind crowned as a champions again
Pep was tactically excellent over the two legs by the way. The stats say it all. His players let him down big time
Like I said. Madrid vs Madrid final and that Atletico would find it difficult at Allianz but go through
Did Pep really say we should kill him if Atletico beat him?
Bayern played with their max potential in this situation. Their forwards were contricted by a top defensemans. The number of blocks, clearances and tactical defending was a treat to watch.
Does this mean top 3 la liga > top of bundesliga
@loli nah,Bayern are better than Barca and Real.
@loli yes, empirically
Thanks to BAYERN players for wonderful performance, football luck wasn't with us...next time hopefully.. MIA SAN MIA
Benatia could play better than Martinez if Pep knew it
so guardiola took over a treble winning team and broke that dominating team apart, great thing cause they could of won everything again, at list defended their titles better. carlo will finally win a league, but no CL glory, this team peaked and now they are on the decline, ribery and robben are always hurt, CB are weak and also always hurt. you heard it here first.
If any neutral watching that game thought Bayern were anything but hard-done-by then they need to start watching a different sport. This should've been 6-1 Munich. Atletico played worse than when my team (Arsenal) visited the Allianz (but with some added unpunished fouling of course). I like Atletico and their tough style in a league full of pussies but they overstep the mark on many an occasion and it seems they get away with it. Actually, only English and German teams ever get punished and only Italians when they play a Spanish team. Ultimately, Bayern should've gone through. They battered Atletico here and the archaic away goals rule has cost them. I honestly don't see how it can't be changed so that away goals only count after extra time. As it is, it rewards crap football playing in the 2nd leg of ties.
@SteveHyland lol your views are so biased
@SteveHyland football isn't a video game. People fail to understand this. Putting your chances away is part of football in real life. The only way to get lucky or unlucky in real football is down to the officials or deflections
@SteveHyland perennial losers who play supposed 'good brand of football' remain losers.
@SteveHyland ur team arsenal steve dont pretend to be a gunners fan coz ur not. how can u be a gunners fan if u like both tottenham and chelsea as well. God stop wid the cospiracy theory. IM bigger bayern fan than and we have lost overall so what. Its a football game not effing war.
la liga is making its own parellel race in europe
pep, tactical fraud?
@John_Wick- What? Pep's team battered Atletico. The tactics were fine. Given Atletico's reputation as a tough defensive team, they gave up 10 more shots than when Arsenal played there (with Gabriel in defence I may point out). A missed penalty, dodgy refereeing, a keeper in good form and an outdated away goals rule are what cost Bayern. This wasn't resolute defending, an impenetrable wall which Bayern failed to break down. I'll repeat what I said after the 1st leg, had a premier league team put in a performance like this and got the same result, the Liga fans- yourself included, would've mentioned how poor the league is, how we can't compete with the best on a footballing level, how we have to resort to anti-football tactics to win etc, but this season's possible Liga champs do it and it's genius? They say you earn your own luck in football but over the last few years the Liga teams have had so much game-changing luck, it's farcical and it's always in important games. Coincidence?
@SteveHyland we liga fans like atletico because they are competing with elite clubs without having the same financial resources. Money is a big factor in football. It allows you to get the best players, best coaches etc. Atm are ranked 15th in the world in terms of financial power. Google deloitte money league. If the likes of Barcelona, RM started to play this style of football it would be unacceptable, simply because of we expect rich clubs to play attacking football, because they are rich and can afford the players. If the likes of man utd or man city played like this, it would be unacceptable, because they have the money to play attacking football. Honestly I don't think any prem team can play like this anyway. Barca and RM definitely can't defend like this. It isn't easy, it just that we have different expectations for different clubs.
@SteveHyland yes a Coincidence as Pep once said Football is football People will always remember what you achieved after you have gone.
Bayern fans...thought you said you'd win UEFA for us (barca fans)????? Anyway,,Im an African, from a long lineage of witches...and what I forsaw is that Atleti wont win it if Real go through...lets see....
@DeanO +1
theres no one better than Godin
@ksaviauk do you know Kalidou Koulibaly?
@GenuineFootballer Are you high? he is a great defender dont get me wrong, but Godin is on a whole other level
@juve10 lol you might be right !! for me i prefere defenders with skills and whom can penetrate towards the middle of the opponents and create space for attackers like khalidou Matts Hummels Morgan varane Ramos !! Godin is like Pepe Miranda Kompany Subobic they are all pretty amazing for interception !!
@ksaviauk Paulo maldini
@glenbayern Maldini isnt playing long time now..
@ksaviauk still, Maldini> Godin
@juve10 he means now.... Not ever...
Conclusion of this tie: pep style failed, attacking football failed, just defend and counter and you will win.
@taktiko they almost won
@John_Wick no way bayern suck cock
@donnyy Even if we werent the better team, at least are coach doesnt punch officials and we dont make an art out of wasting time and being a cynic.
@donnyy no, their fans do
Atletico was far from their best today but they managed to go to the finals. Gimenez had a very poor game and he was lucky that Lewandowski couldn't made the most of him mistakes. Godin was clearly not 100% fit. It was a very good decision from Simeone to leave Carrasco out of the starting line up. He changed the game in the second half.
Bayern deserved to advance...
@Zootball nah bayern sucks cock
@Zootball so did atletico
@ksaviauk no, the away goal rulke is the most anti football, frustrating rule ever
@Zootball Then how would you determine if it was tied on aggregate? Might as well jsut play one game in a neutral stadium...
@Zootball go and cry in the corner about the away goal rule lol
Is there a way to check how many crosses Bayeen had because I was dissapointed by them,for all of their possession all they did was crosses,it was like watching David moves utd side
@bungalow26 Simeone said after the game that the first half was the best he has ever seen from a team against him since he is coaching teams. He is almost in Love with Bayern. So it wasn't that bad apparently
@bungalow26 I think Thiago was missed to help create something centrally
@bungalow26 They always play like that, when was the last time you watched a Bayern game?
@bungalow26 Agreed. Although it was obvious that that's the most effective way for them to create something. Expected Atletico to defend those balls better though.
I actually think Atletico didn't have their best game. Still managed to go through.
it was the worst ref I have ever seen.
The poorest Atletico that I have seen in a long time. The first game they were good but tonight it was a disgrace what they showed on the pitch. Awful performance...
@neumi17 Agreed. But enough to take out Bayern. They were really bad in the first half where they offered nothing offensively. Have expected them to defend and clear better/win more duels in their 16m. Also, they have showed better pressing in some past games.
Atletico had 44 clearances :D
The referee did a decent job. Pretty much as good as it gets. He made a mistake with the Torres penalty but otherwise top notch. Most people who are always quick to take the piss at referees would loose their heads completely in a game like this to the point that they wouldn't know their names.
Wow!!! I voted Oblak for man of the match.. And I also voted a 2-1 scoreline..
congratulation to ref. and UFEA must consider the ugly behavior of atletico s coaching staff .bayern were very very unfortunate not to win this match but this is football and thats why its so exciting.
@fcbayern They did win this match.
@Ivannnnn I meant on aggregate you should get it by yourself
@fcbayern then say on aggregate idiot
The final has already been played.atleti will win the UCL.
@glenbayern Hopefully not, please let football win
Very good performance from Bayern, they're only going out because of an out-dated away-goals rule. Now Atletico should win the CL, I can't see either Real Madrid or Man City being anywhere near Bayern's level.
@What4 Do you mean near Atleticos level? Because Atletico is the better team here mate.
@What4 Outdated is the whole refereeing. While the other sports took big step ahead, football remains conservative. They brought 2 extra officials, gave referees the shaving cream, calculate the distance ran by the players and show heatmaps, etc. But every tournament, every single damn year brings controversy. And what do we have to demand from 2 corrupted managers as blatter and platini? Replays would have changed the football history have to say, but the biggest thing they were able to use is the goal line technology after years(!) of debates!
yeeeesssss , thank you simeome , thank you oblak , thank you griezmann , thank you lovely atletico , you made my night ... I repeat what i said 2 weeks ago: bayern was the easiest draw .... and I really hope I watch the game atletico vs city...
@shevchenco Easiest draw? Atleti only went through on an offside away goal.
@shevchenco easiest draw?imagine they would have done to city and real.
@glenbayern lost both with boring titi-kaka
11 shot on target against atleti.which team has had more than that
Even without looking at the ratings, i can tell Oblak is MOTM Amazing goalkeeper^___^
The power of la liga strikes again. @stevehyland
If Atlético are weak like some people are claiming what does that say about the teams that can't beat them
@SmoothJitsu253 *shots fired at Real and Barcelona*
Oblak be like: Veni, Vidi, Vici. That first goal(giménez double fault) tho..
Nice tie atletico.hope you win the UCL and destroy real or city
Atletico Madrid the dirtiest, unfair team with the most cynical manager.
@alexandrion91 Agressive & physical does not equate to dirty and unfair. People need to grow a pair. But yea, Simone needs to calm it down. I cant believe he grabbed the Sub dude
Haha, Pep gave up his tiki-taka. All they chances came from hoofing the ball and deep crosses.
@Ivannnnn Which part is incorrect, downvoters?
@Ivannnnn mocking opponent's coach, bad sportsmanship. ATM's essense is in your comment.
@fervour21 The 'haha' was there to suggest I'm taking it with a laugh and not mocking. It was interesting for me to compare how Guardiola's Bayern played in his first season which was pure Barcelona tiki-taka copy attept and this now.
@Ivannnnn idk mate, my opinion is bayern showed champion-level football tonight and were a bit unlucky, gratz to ATM anyway, nothing matters after the whistle.
Guardiola is most overrated coach in football by a miles ( I bet today both to score, Lewandowski to score, over 2,5 goals and over 10.5 corners - so nothing out of fury here). He has always took charge of already great teams and destroyed them in 3 years max. Now he takes over City who are solid, but by no means great team. Hope he gets them relegated and then be fired to learn how o build any team from scratch not taking over already great or very solid ones :)
@koziol.mutant I'd say he's good but he hasn't proved himself yet. I am tired of these coaches who only manage top teams with top players TBH. If you're the real deal take on a challenge a build something that is not already great. LIke Simeone did with Atletico. Kudos for Klopp for taking a Liverpool job with lots to do even though he could have gone almost anywhere. And Benitez who after Napoli and Real takes over Newcastle who's fighting against relegation.
@Ivannnnn he is unproven, that we agree on :) he was smart enough to take already great teams , made gradually such ones by other coaches and never really even emulated their achievements. Good points with Klopp and Benitez, would add even Spaletti, Pellegrini to that.
@koziol.mutant u r right, he destroyed dozens of teams and achieved nothing in his football career. Strange Bayern wasn`t relegated. The weirdest thing is Guardiolas Bayern reached 3semifinals of CL. This time they were torn apart by Atletico, it should have been 2-7 today, but for the Neuer and the referee.
@tar88s with such great teams they would reach CL Semis without coach too, look for example of Bayern draw to Semis, big lol
@koziol.mutant I wouldn`t call a team "destroyed", when it wins 3 domestic championships in a row and reaches 3 semifinals of CL in 3 years. I do not think every manager achieved something like that in the last 30years of Bayern history. I do agree though that he was expected to take at least 1 CL and he failed. But what you wrote in your top comment is a total bs, sorry m8
Lol... Bayern need like 40 shots on goal to defeat these guys
Chances Bayern -Atletico = 10 -2
damn it .... Torres shouldn have lost that...
dreadful refereeing, bring replays on. aint supporting bayern but that spoils football
@tar88s this Cakir is good for Turkish 3rd league, but often gets Champions League matches involving German teams :)
@tar88s Offside goal and penalty call outside of the box. Bayern 51 shots and Atletico 18 shots over both legs. And people will still say it's deserved and the best team won.
@felipe9525 How many clear cut chances from Bayern today?
@Ivannnnn 5...
@felipe9525 Griezmann wasn't offside. The only part of his body that was offside was his arm and as far as I'm concerned, you can't score with your arm and therefore he was onside.
Atletico is so freaking weak, it's a disgrace for football. Extremely pathetic performance by Madrid. Hopefully they get punished for that awfull play.
@neumi17 disgrace is Bayern titi-kaka with useless coach
@neumi17 Need some medicine for butthurt?
Bayern only 2 goals so far is a joke. Should be 5 -1
@neumi17 How many good chances have they had? Not many. First goal wasn't from open play either.
Since Guardiola took over Bayern they are boring as hell to watch. I don't care how "dominant" they are, it's just boring to watch Barcelona v.2
@moo13 Bayern dominated games under Jupp aswell. nothing really has changed..
@ksaviauk There is a huge difference with Heynckes' Bayern and Guardiola's Bayern. Heynckes' Bayern was really great to watch, high pressing, great direct attacking style...this Guardiola's Bayern is unwatchable...endless shuffling of the ball from one side to the other...hilarious. It can pass in Barcelona since they nurture that style of play for over a decade now and they have the players for it...Bayern not so much.
Come on, Atleti! Win it for us Juve fans.
@berhin Doesn't make any sense...
@neumi17 it makes sense to most people
@berhin No
@neumi17 damn you are dumb
@neumi17 Juve fans wanted Bayern to loose as a sort of payback
Great performance by Bayern! Putting on a great game and pressure whereas Atletico is non existing
@neumi17 Who ever gives a downvote for this has no clue about football
@neumi17 Even better by Atletico.
Should be 5-0 already, lucky Atletico
oblak is having a great match...
Gimenez last 5 minutes. 1. Caused a freekick for the goal. 2. Ball deflects off of him for the goal. 3. Causes a penalty.... not his best day
Giménez fal..fault leading to free kick, (small)error leading to goal, and then a penalty. should be around 5.0 personal score at the moment..
ALONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Atleti defend like crazy
Go Atleti! This has got to be their year!!
2-0 Thomas Muller x2
Atleti can win too at Allianz
1-1
7-1
goals not games :P
In fact this can go over games everty type from 2-1 to 3-1.
@koziol.mutant 2-1, eat this minus givers muppets :)
Basically, no big doubt about Bayern win here, but.. those 2-1 3-2 will not be enough, Munich have strong attack, but defenders could make some errors and there is Torres just to use it anytime.
like someone once said: Guardiola is at risk of achieving the wrong treble: Losing the semi finals 3 times to 3 different Spanish teams. He better get his tactics right and motivate his players...
Whoever made this prediction really doesn't believe in Bayern and Guardiola. I know they looked helpless in front of goal at Calderon, but they still have some world class players and individual skill might as well be decisive in this game. I expect intense game and goalless draw just sounds silly.
2-1 Bayern wins but Atletico goes through
@dzvinka wow are you a wizard?
no chance for boring stupid guardiolas bayern ...
@shevchenco hater Madrid fan
@Babykimoo u r a cule
Difficult prediction, Bayern 2nd leg is always a completely different team. When Guardiola gets it right (for once) I see them going to the final.
if torres score, he will be sent off! :) we can see red card/cards because cüneyt çakır is referee. also we can see surprise penalty decisions. for pep; eliminating atletico is more important than going to the finals. so ı think he will take some risks if there is no goal in first half. if there is no goal in first half, we can see 1-0 and extra time. if there will be a goal early, we will see more dangeorus attacks and goals.
Bayern are in terrible form but will score, but will it be enough?
Gimenez MOTM
@Homayoon 28' MOTM Gimenez
0-0 draw
Torres will score here.
Filipe Luis MotM
2-1 Bayern Munich
I would like to see a 5-1 just because people now think Atletico is this and that. Bayern is a fine team away from home and might loose and draw but take a look at their results at home...It's a different story.
@hellreaper 1-0 at home against benfica
@hellreaper bayern are out of form.i dont even remember the last time atleti were losing by 2 goals.i favor atleti to go thru but u nvr know
Bay3rn cant stop Atleti from scoring even if they win. El Nino will be unleashed.
2016 is the year of the anti-football, atm will pull through
I wouldn't like to see Alonso and Bernat to start, neither have been impressive lately. Vidal is better at defending and Alaba is much better crosser which I think is important at this match. We know how Atleti will play and Pep should really try something different, I'm just not sure if he has anything else to offer. Atlentico will focus on defending but it would be important for them to score since that would mean they're basically through. If they fail to score though, Bayern have excellent chance to go to final. So pretty tight margins, both have a chance but Atletico have advantage. For now it seems 1-1 or 2-1 for me.
@Castle Yeah man, don't even mention Bernat, he was utterly hopeless. Muller is exactly the kind of player Bayern need in such games, someone with cojones. Exactly, we all know how Atleti will play, they're just so good at it that knowing doesn't give you any advantage. I usually defend his decisions, but Pep needs to cut his short-passes tactical bullshit tonight and go all in. Last chance to do that.
@Castle Atleti are tough nut to crack, even a goal would be like a blessing.
@Castle You should also add that while Atletico focus on defending they are usually are very agressive during the first 30minutes and it can be dangerous for Bayern if they play like they always do. It's actually quite possible that Atletico will open the scoreline and only then Bayern will start to dominate which might be already too late. Although I support FCB 2-1 seems the most likely result.
@felipe9525 Good point, although if post is too long people don't bother to read it :P But check my previous post where I mentioned about Atlentico's counter attacking. I believe Simeone will gladly give possession to Bayern from very first minutes but could indeed press hard and get some good chances. At some point they must drop deeper but even then it will be hard for Bayern to actually dominate because Atlentico's lines are so tight. But with a little luck and creativity it's not impossible to score against them.
@BugsBunny Atleti are no juventus, hold on to those pearly diapers. haha!
@John_Wick so that's the best you can come up with. Dude, you need to up your game. Now I could have easily made a your mamma joke such as "and your mother isn't a sex bomb either, but still she gets bent over and... guess what?", but I'll spare you the embarassment. After the first leg, I admit, Bayern doesn't look likely to progress, but there are still ninety minutes to go. It's not unheard-of for Bayern to score a couple at the Allianz. If not, good luck, Atleti, for the final. As long as it's not Real Madrid, I don't care.
@BugsBunny so its a cule tag on you.
Suarez couldn't do anything when they barca played Atleti until Torres got sent off. Lewa is in 2nd tier and i doubt he will be visible until the ref makes some horrible decisions and sends someone off to kill the game.
Muller played the full 90 minutes this weekend. I'm assuming he'll be starting on the bench on Tuesday.
@John_Wick Na, both Lewandowski and Müller will feature in the starting line-up, I hope.
4:0
Bayern are methodical all these years but lack guts because of Pep. Guts is what matters in CL. Atleti to the finals.
1-1, bitter end for Pep
Simeone has based his game on very tight and well organized defending, but that's not all what their game is up to. Most of their clearances are attempts to start counter attacks, they clear the ball exactly where they are told to and strikers know where to run after winning possession. Other thing is a huge amount of work they do during matches and in training. Their intensity is so hard, their probably most running team in the world, whereas most of other teams avoid hard training as if it's something to avoid to because it leads to injuries. Maybe it's due to Atlentico's fitness coach Oscar Ortega, without his methods they wouldn't be able to play and train as they do.
@Castle well lucified Atleti's secret.
@John_Wick Thanks. When you think about it, how many teams actually practice clearances? Maybe Leicester. The amount of training that directly benefits their game and transforms into something on the pitch must be the very biggest with Atlentico. Very precise training! And at the same time their players also continue developing individually.
Atletico should go through. 0-1.
Atletico is very lucky that Barcelona as well as Bayern are totally out of form and lack creativity at the moment. Maybe Bayern will score tomorrow but I don't think they will shoot more than 1 goal and I also think they will allow one too. So 1-1 or 2-1 at the most will be the score and Atletico will progress to the final...
@neumi17 i haven't seen a team that looked like 'in form' playing against Atletico. Barca is scoring 6-8 goals again. It's just Atletico is _this_ good.
@mysterious Atletico's record against Barca is very bad in recent seasons, latest win was their first for a long time. Nothing away from Atlentico, but Barca certainly weren't in form. But winning CL is actually very much about being in for at the right time.
2-1
Atletico look like the best team left. Bayern haven't lived up to expectations so far, and neither has Real Madrid, they look about as good as Man City.
@What4 city are really lucky not to concede 2
Atletico should go through. Under 2.5 goals.
If Carrasco plays, they will be very dangerous in counter attacks. With the addition of Godin, their defense will be more organized as well. If Bayern wants to go to the final, they must move the ball very quickly otherwise there will be no point in controlling the game with unnecassary passes.
Atletico shows determination, unity, sacrifice, team spirit and a lot of other positive aspects in their game. They deserve a lot of praise for the football they play. Every team is different and their style of play must be respected as well. Football is not all about attacking.
if it was 2-0 i would have sided with atleti but i think bayern will snatch thiws
ATM will go through. Bayern have to score 3 goals, 2 won't be enough because just 1 goal from Atletico will win the tie. #ChampionsLiga. Pep will have an easier time next season, playing in the Europa and the mule league.
@Beastador thats the truest statement, i bet leicester wont even qualify for europa when they play in CL group stages. There are no mules in CL like the mules in PL. Pep will be happy to remain contained in his comfort box and win the PL or maybe even lose that. Spurs also shall crash out. Arsenal are perennial round of 16 prey.
The best way to score against atletico is to put crosses inside the box just like against juve.
@glenbayern What else can Bayern do anyway? Their offense has been totally harmless lately and the only plan for the offense is to send Costa, Coman and Ribery into 1-1 duells to than put about a 100 crosses in front of the goal in the hope to find the head of Müller or Lewandowski. So yes, of course they will attack with a lot of flanks because they don't know anything else to do anymore. Combination play does not exist...
@neumi17 he will omit muller again
@neumi17 I can see Pep going with a 4-3-3, again, for the 2nd leg
I would expect Simeone to park the bus and take the ball to the corners of the field as long as they can. I wouldn't be surprised if ATM players try to waste time early in the first half! This is ATM style and some may like it! The game will be intense and tough for both teams. I think Bayern to the final vs RM.
@Aziz89 Bayern is difficunt